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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Leora Nomen
Now I never experienced a need to smacktalk in local. Yet I notice many players in EVE often start talking ****. Usually if they lose, but sometimes even when they win. Why do they do this? Because it gives them pleasure to think that their opponents feel bad due to being insulted. It gives them pleasure to know that another human being playing this game against them feels bad on personal level. Even if they win they want to rub it in. Now I have no idea what makes them want to do this.
Has it ever occurred to you the smack might just cause the "target" to war dec the smack talkers? If you toss out a gf the "target" will just put it down has has a, well, good fight. But if one throws some smack talk in there (without the good fight comment) one might just get a war dec out of em or at least some mercs comming after your rearend. Hurting someones feelings, or their pride, is a good way to get a war dec out of em. Or have em come out in a CNR to get revenge. That's always funny.
And, yes, some people do find it funny when the smack starts flying. In this game if you don't have a thick skin you will get mad real easy. I have found it rather enjoyable to play the bad guy, mean person, jackass, whatever. It is, after all, just a game. And if your feelings get hurt in an internet game because of what someone did to some pixels you are controlling. Or said something in local to you (a complete stranger who you should not care about at all) causes you to feel bad then you should not be playing a Multiplayer Internet Game.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.10.02 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Leora Nomen
Yes, it has occurred to me. And doing that exactly fits the definition of grief play (i hope you aren't in self-denial about it). Of course it is a game, but just because you pay $15 a month doesn't mean you can go ahead and do anything you want and blame other players for not having thick enough skin to get along with you.
Did you miss the part where I wrote "I have found it rather enjoyable to play the bad guy, mean person, jackass, whatever."? And yes, I pay $15 a month to play the game my way. I could care less about your enjoyment of the game. I could care less if people whom I do not fly with hate me, like me, feel indifferent to me. You are all just pixels on a computer screen to me. Sometime you kill me, sometimes you don't. And a lot of times you provide great entertainment for me (especially the ones who don't learn from their mistakes).
And I will keep doing what I do until CCP comes along and stops it. 
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Seviche Phoenix
Originally by: Aille Pluthrak
Did you miss the part where I wrote "I have found it rather enjoyable to play the bad guy, mean person, jackass, whatever."? And yes, I pay $15 a month to play the game my way. I could care less about your enjoyment of the game. I could care less if people whom I do not fly with hate me, like me, feel indifferent to me. You are all just pixels on a computer screen to me.
So, how does the linked article in the OP not apply to you?
First, you dehumanize the other side. Then it is easy to commit atrocities and feel nothing. Nothing but pixels? Interesting.
Lets see. Because I don't care about peoples feelings in this game when I destroy their pixels then you surmize it would be a hop, skip and a jump for me to commit atrocities and feel nothing? Did you get your psych degree off the back of a match book?
I'm married and feel bad whenever she feels sad. I like dogs (I have 5 in fact). I try not to kill anything (even the bugs on the windshield when car is standing still). Crickets I will kill in a heartbeat. They keep me up at night. And because I have no feelings for the pixels I blast in a computer MMO I am a monster? Wow, just wow.
You are the type of person that makes this game a joy to play.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Leora Nomen
stuff
I have feelings for the people I play with. They are a bunch of *******s. The people I play against are just targets. You take this game to serious. I have always disliked it when people start bringing in "how did that make you feel, Tommy, when you blew Jimmys space ship up" with their goal being to make Tommy out to be an anti-social misfit.
Fine, I am an anti-social misfit with delusions of world domination who really really really enjoys blowing up Jimmys space ship.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Aille Pluthrak on 03/10/2007 15:35:49
Edited by: Aille Pluthrak on 03/10/2007 15:31:24
Originally by: Lavraen
Yeah I've heard you on vent and read your posts on the RAK forum and you seem like a jackass in real life to be honest.
I meant what I said concerning Raven. If he had said at any time to kill your ship and pod you I would have done it without a second thought. You do a good impersonation of a jackass yourself Lav. I actually had to talk Mave out of podding you one night. Imagine that.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lavraen
Originally by: Aille Pluthrak
Edited by: Aille Pluthrak on 03/10/2007 15:35:49
Edited by: Aille Pluthrak on 03/10/2007 15:31:24
Originally by: Lavraen
Yeah I've heard you on vent and read your posts on the RAK forum and you seem like a jackass in real life to be honest.
I meant what I said concerning Raven. If he had said at any time to kill your ship and pod you I would have done it without a second thought. You do a good impersonation of a jackass yourself Lav. I actually had to talk Mave out of podding you one night. Imagine that.
Hahaha you really think you were pulling the strings when I was in RAK?
Ironically, I had to be talked out of podding you and Mave then kicking you both out of RAK by the other directors, so you're lucky to still be there. You're not as well liked or as important as you might think. Imagine THAT.
Let's derail this some more.
Remind me again who is still in RAK and who isn't? I could care less about being liked by a lot of people. And I know how important I am (I am not important at all). But for some unknown reason you thought you were. Again who is still in RAK and who isn't? All because you thought you were too important to have people in corp not agree with what you said. I am suprised you lasted has long has you did in RAK.
Come and try and pod me if you think you can. I think I have more friends then you do in RAK. Well in the "Night Crew" at least.
Do you kiss behind has well in your new corp has you did in RAK?
Do I need to get a chair and some popcorn for this Drama? Let me know and I'll go buy some popcorn.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.10.04 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lavraen
I co-founded RAK. Freddy and I came up with the concept of RAK when we were in TWD. Freddy started it because he had corp skills and Lav didn't at the time. I used to can flip in TWD all the time and thought it would be a good laugh for a full time corp. I've known the ex TWD people in RAK for at least a year and many of them are facebook friends. Dhejay was CEO of TWD hence why he joined eventually. In the future I dare say I'll be flying with them again. For now I need to go and experience other areas of the game. The door is always open for me in RAK and Freddy has told me this.
It's best to get your facts straight to save your self from looking stupid in future.
I don't kiss ass. This is an example of kissing ass "I meant what I said concerning Raven. If he had said at any time to kill your ship and pod you I would have done it without a second thought"
Now go away, there's a good boy.
You left RAK cause you want to experience more of EvE? From what I was told your forum privligies were revoked after your little hissy fit on the forums concerning the use of T2 ships and the ability of others in the use of said ships. Some of us who have been playing has long has you did not like being treated like two week old noobs who didn't know which way to point their wee-wee. To tell the truth given the fact that you had been with RAK a lot longer then I had I was half expecting to be invited to my own podding after basicly tell you to shove it where the sun don't shine on the RAK forums. But it seems you did not have the pull you thought you did and thus you took your ball and left "to explore more of EvE".
It sure did look like you kissed ass with all the parroting you were doing in the forums. And if saying what I said concerning Raven is kissing ass then I have no problem with that. I think your problem was that your ass wasn't getting kissed in the same way seeing how you helped "come up with the concept of RAK" and were not getting the respect you thought you deserved. Is that respect thing hard to see when Raven is real good at killing ships and all you seem to be good at is "flipping cans", with you in a Wolf no less (this after telling us not to fly T2 ships)?
And your response in this this thread and the way you posted your first post in this thread with an attack on me might be one of the reasons some of us don't respect you. The way you treat me in this thread is the exact same way you treated me and others in the RAK forums. Thank god Freddy was in charge and not you. Cause from what I have seen of your attitude here and on the RAK forums your CEO abilities are lacking. But by all means do come back to RAK. I look forward to borrowing a ship from you for some extra DPS at some planet.
You really do need to follow your own advice. None of this drama would have started if you had done what you said to me last in the RAK forums and ignore my posts.
There's a good boy.
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